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ipsec vs. tls/srtp ?



The recent list discussion about voip & vpns brings up another  question: How do the list members feel about using tls & srtp as a  secure alternative to running sip voip over ipsec vpns ?    There would seem to be some advantages to using tls & srtp but I  would like some other opinions.
  
  thanks,
  jin
  
		
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